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IT'S NOW 6:00. I'D LIKE TO CALL FIRST OF ALL, THIS EVENING.
[A. OPENING MEETING]
I'M GOING TO NEED A MOTION. WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER THAT IS REMOTE PARTICIPATION DUE TO WORK RESPONSIBILITIES.SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE HIM TO ALLOW HIM TO REMOTE INTO THE MEETING.
I MOVE, WE ALLOW MR. JOHNSON TO REMOTE INTO THE MEETING.
I SECOND. MOTION BY MISS CHRIS. SECOND BY MISS ANDREWS.
ROLL CALL. MISS TAYLOR? YES. MRS.. CHRIS. YES.
MRS. ANDREWS. YES. MR. JOHNSON. YES. THANK YOU.
AND MR. ELY. YES. SO NOW, WELCOME TO THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR A BUDGET WORK SESSION IS MARCH THE 3RD.
IT'S NOW 6:00. IF I CAN GET ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
THIS IS ANDREWS. HERE, MR. JOHNSON. SURE, MRS. CRIST. HERE, MISS TAYLOR. HERE, MR. HEALY. HERE.
NOW, IF EVERYONE PLEASE RISE. MISS CHRISTIE WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[B. PUBLIC SESSION]
AND THEN MISS TAYLOR WILL LEAD US IN THE SCHOOL BOARD INVOCATION. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.LET'S PRAY. LORD JESUS, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US THIS EVENING AS WE COME BEFORE YOU AND THE CITIZENS OF PRINCE GEORGE, AND TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY SCHOOLS.
LET US BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY THAT YOU'VE ENTRUSTED WITH US, AND USE IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, WITH YOUR GUIDANCE. BE WITH OUR CONVERSATIONS TONIGHT THAT THEY MAY BE PLEASING TO YOU, AND THAT WE CAN GET THE COUNTY, THE SCHOOL, COUNTY BUSINESS DONE, AND THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CHILDREN, OUR STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY. IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE PRAY.
AMEN. AMEN. ALL RIGHT, BOARD MEMBERS, YOU HAVE AN AGENDA IN FRONT OF YOU. IF THERE ARE NO SUBTRACTIONS OR ADDITIONS, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS A SECOND.
MOTION BY MISS TAYLOR, SECOND BY MISS ANDREWS.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MRS. CRIST. YES, MR. JOHNSON? YES, MISS TAYLOR? YES, MRS. ANDREWS? YES, MR. EALY? YES. FIRST UP TONIGHT IS DISCUSSION ITEM TO REVISIT THE OFFICIAL USE OF THE CARRYOVER
[1. Revisit Official Use of Carry Over Funds]
FUNDS, I GUESS. DOCTOR LYLE. PATRICK, MR. BARNES.SO CHAIR ELY AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED.
CAN YOU CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON? I'M SORRY. PLEASE.
SEVERAL OF US MET SENIOR TEAM MEMBERS, MET TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
MR. BARNES. THANK YOU, DOCTOR LAW. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN ELY, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. JOHNSON. AND ON THE INTERNET LAND. DOCTOR LYLE, DOCTOR MARTIN AND ALL OF OUR FRIENDS IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING.
IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE AN UPDATED SPREADSHEET FOR THE A LITTLE OVER $2,082,000 BUDGET THAT ARE THE CARRYOVER FUNDS THAT THE COUNTY HAS INDICATED THEY WILL BE APPROVING TO PUT IN THEIR CAPITAL FUND FOR OUR USE.
THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE STARTING WITH THIS EVENING DOES ADD A BEAZLEY ROOFING PROJECT TO THE LIST.
EXCUSE ME. G AND B WINGS. TO THIS LIST. TO ADD THE BEAZLEY ROOFING.
MR. BARNES, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT THE SAME ONE. SO WHAT WHAT MR. BARNES IS REFERENCING IS ACTUALLY THE ONE, THE BUDGET, THE SPREADSHEET THAT IS NOT STAPLED.
AND IF YOU NOTICE THAT THE SECOND PAGE OF THAT DOCUMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT LINE 13, THAT'S WHERE HE'S JUST MENTIONING THE BEAZLEY ROOFING SECTIONS G AND B $266,000. CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL LOOKING AT THE RIGHT ONE. SCOTT, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR?
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RIGHT THERE ON THAT LINE DOCUMENT. CORRECT. RIGHT THERE ON LINE FOUR VERSUS 5430.CAN YOU CHANGE THAT 8000? YES. AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN JUST ONE SECOND.
80,000 WAS THE PLACEHOLDER WE PUT IN THIS BUDGET.
WE WERE WAITING ON THE FINAL QUOTE FOR NORTH, AND IT CAME IN AT 54 FOR 30.
BUT THANKFULLY RON AND HIS TEAM GOT THAT QUOTE IN TODAY.
THIS EVENING. AND IT DID COME IN MUCH BETTER THAN WE WERE EXPECTING IT TO.
IS THAT THE NORTH CAFETERIA, CAFETERIA, STAGE AND GYM? WE WERE EXPECTING IT TO BE NOTICEABLY HIGHER THAN THE THE ORIGINAL QUOTE BECAUSE IT DID NOT INCLUDE GYM LIGHTS, BUT THEY CAME OVER AND RELOOKED AT IT AT OUR REQUEST.
OUR ELECTRICIANS MET THEM OVER THERE AND WENT OVER ALL THE CONTROLS. WHAT'S THERE, WHAT'S BAD, WHAT'S GOOD? AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ONLY INCREASE IT BY ABOUT $1,500.
TELL ME AGAIN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, WHAT THE ACTUAL QUOTE CAME IN 54 430.
SO, MR. BARNES, JUST JUST FOR AGAIN FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE LOOKING AT LINE FOUR, LINE THE SECOND PAGE WHERE IT SAYS NORTH CAFETERIA LIGHTS AND STAGE CONTROLS. WE NEED TO ADJUST THE AMOUNT OF $80,000 TO ITS HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT.
THE ACTUAL QUOTE IS 54 430. IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT AT 80 FOR NOW.
AND THEN YOU TELL US HOW YOU THINK WE SHOULD SHIFT THAT MONEY TO SOMETHING ELSE.
ALL RIGHT. SO SCOTT, LINE FOUR. GO AHEAD AND CHANGE IT TO 54 FOR 30 PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL START. LET'S SCROLL BACK UP TO THE TOP IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. BRUBAKER WHAT WE DID WITH THIS PLAN TO MAKE THE BUDGET WORK WITH ADDING A ROOFING SECTION IS WE CAME TO THE CONSENSUS THAT WE WOULD NOT PURCHASE OBJECT DETECTORS FOR EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL PURCHASE ONE SET OF OBJECT DETECTORS THAT WE CAN TAKE TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS FOR LARGE EVENTS THAT CAN BE USED FOR PARENT NIGHTS, FUNCTIONS, BACK TO SCHOOL, THINGS OF THAT NATURE WHERE SECURITY IS ADDITIONAL SECURITY IS WARRANTED, BUT THEY WILL NOT. THERE'S THE MONEY FOR THAT WILL NOT BE FUNDED THROUGH THIS $2 MILLION.
SO THEY WOULD STILL BE PURCHASED, BUT ONLY ONE SET TO ROTATE AROUND THE FIVE SCHOOLS.
NOT A SET FOR EVERY SCHOOL MOVING DOWN TO THE AWNINGS.
SO THERE WILL BE INSTANCES WHERE IF WE EVER HAVE TO RUN THE OBJECT DETECTORS DURING A SCHOOL DAY AT THE SECONDARY SCHOOLS, OR WHEN WE RUN THEM DURING THE SECONDARY SCHOOL DAY AT THE SECONDARY SCHOOLS, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE SECURITY GRANT, OR WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, OR IF WE DECIDE TO DO SURPRISE POP UPS OF RUNNING THE SECURITY DETECTORS DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, THE AWNINGS WOULD BE NEEDED TO TO PROTECT FOLKS FROM THE WEATHER.
IN THIS PROPOSAL GOING DOWN TO THE VEHICLE LINE, MR. BRUBAKER, IT DOES REMOVE ONE STUDENT TRANSPORT VAN LINE ITEM EIGHT.
WE REPLACED THAT. WE REMOVED THAT EXPENSE TO $0.
BUT IT DOES STILL LEAVE IN THE THREE SCHOOL BUSSES TO HELP WITH THE SMOOTHING SCHEDULE.
IF YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER THERE, MR. BRUBAKER, THE SOFTBALL FIELD LIGHTS IS A PROJECT THAT DID COME IN OVER WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED FROM THE PRICING WE RECEIVED ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND IT'S TWO REASONS.
NOT ONLY IS PRICING GONE UP, THE WE ADDED TWO PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS ON THE BACK OF THE POLES ON EACH DUGOUT SO THAT FOLKS WOULD HAVE LIGHTING GOING TO THE PARKING LOTS AND WALKING DOWN THE PATHS. THESE LIGHTS ARE SO TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED AND DIALED IN THAT THEY DO NOT LIGHT OUTSIDE OF.
THEY LIGHT VERY LITTLE OUTSIDE OF THE ACTUAL PLAYING SURFACE.
THIS IS A 5050 LIGHT PATTERN ON BOTH FIELDS. TWO LIGHTS FOR THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS, ALONG WITH OUTLETS ON THE TWO POLES CLOSEST TO THE PRESS BOX SO WE CAN PLUG IN STEREO EQUIPMENT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND THOSE ARE CURRENTLY NOT THERE.
THE CONTRACTOR, ALSO THE INSTALLATION CONTRACTOR, ALSO CAME IN WITH A HIGHER PRICE BECAUSE HE WILL NOT WARRANT THE WORK UNLESS WE REPLACE ALL THE CONDUIT AND UNDERGROUND WIRING. AND AFTER TALKING TO THE ELECTRICIANS ON OUR TEAM AND THE MUSCO TEAM.
EVERYBODY AGREES IF WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING THIS KIND OF MONEY TO UPDATE AND, AND GET BRAND NEW LIGHTS, IT MAKES SENSE TO SPEND THAT MONEY AS WELL. MOVING DOWN THE ORIGINAL QUOTE, ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WE SENT OVER
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TO THE COUNTY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THE BEASLEY SECURITY LINE WAS AT 75,000, AND WE LOWERED IT TO 70,000.IN THIS SCENARIO. BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING 5000 OF THE 25,670 THAT WE'VE SAVED ON THE NORTH PROJECT AND PUT IT BACK. SO, SCOTT, IF YOU WOULD MAKE THAT LINE 75,000 THAT BEASLEY LINE TWO.
YES, SIR. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS THE SAME DOWN TO NUMBER TEN.
THE TRACTOR. THE TRACTOR IS STILL IN THE BUDGET BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN TO WHERE IT'S BASICALLY A TRUCK IT WITH A NEW BUCKET AND FORKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, THE BUDGET JUST DOESN'T WORK WITH THE WITH AN UPGRADE TO THE BACKHOE ATTACHMENT, WHICH IS OKAY, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A BIG BACKHOE ALREADY ON ON STANDBY, AND THEN THE REMAINING AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COULD BE ADDED, $20,670, WHICH IS THE REST OF THE SAVINGS FROM THE NORTH LIGHT PROJECT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST PUTTING IT IN THE SECONDARY SMART BOARD SO THE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT CAN BUY MORE OF THEM. SO IF YOU'LL MOVE THAT CURSOR FOR ONE SECOND, SCOTT, IF YOU'LL MAKE THAT LINE $39,670. IT SHOULD BRING IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL 670.
YES. ZERO. IT BRINGS IT BACK. I'M SORRY. MAKE IT 570.
IT LEAVES ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THERE.
IT INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF SMART BOARDS WE'RE BUYING, AND IT BRINGS IT BACK TO THE SAME TOTAL OF $2,082,067, WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT YOU WERE PRESENTED THIS EVENING STARTED.
AND IT IS UNDER THE COUNTY ROLLOVER TOTAL FUND OF $2,082,128.
IT'S ALL FOUR SECTIONS OF G. IT'S NOT JUST THE GYM, IT'S ALL FOUR SECTIONS.
THE ONLY OTHER THING IN THIS THAT I WILL POINT OUT TO YOU ALL IS YOU'LL SEE THE LITTLE TINY 175, 69, 44 TO THE RIGHT OF THE WHOLE THING. THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE ASKING THE COUNTY TO CONSOLIDATE.
IT WAS THE SECOND REQUEST OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING. IT'S MONEY THAT'S ALREADY OURS. IT'S ALREADY IN THE CAPITAL FUND LEFT OVER FROM MIDDLE ROAD ROOFING AND BATHROOM RENOVATIONS. SO THE PROJECT AT THE BEASLEY PROJECT IS ACTUALLY $374,300.
IT FUNDS THE ENTIRE PROJECT. DOES THAT INCLUDE THE LIBRARY? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THE B BUILDING IS THE MAIN OFFICE.
LIBRARY, NURSE'S OFFICE. AND THE G IS THE P. IT'S ALL FOUR SECTIONS.
YES, MA'AM. IT IS NOT JUST THE GYM. THERE ARE FOUR.
RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I WAS VERY CONFUSED ON THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, BUT RON GOT ME STRAIGHT. SO IT WOULD BE ALL OF THE MAIN OFFICE, LIBRARY, B BUILDING AT BEASLEY AND ALL FOUR SECTIONS OF THE G BUILDING, WHICH INCLUDES THE GYM.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SECURITY FENCE FOR BEASLEY? I THOUGHT THAT WAS ON HERE. IT IS. MISS TAYLOR, NUMBER TWO.
EVERYBODY AGREES WE NEED ADDITIONAL SECURITY AT BEASLEY.
WE NEED TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS IT FENCING? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FENCE CALLS. THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHERE THE 75,000. YES, MA'AM. THAT IS A THREE SIDED FENCE.
THAT IS NO FENCE AT ALL. PARALLELING COURTHOUSE ROAD.
IT HAS A THREE SIDED FENCE WITH GATES FOR TEACHERS TO COME AND GO FROM SCOTT PARK.
THE PARK BACK THERE. A DOUBLE GATE TO GET LAWNMOWERS IN AND OUT FROM THE BACK.
A DOUBLE GATE IF PARKS AND REC NEEDED IN FROM THE BACK FOR WHATEVER REASON FROM DISC GOLF.
WE NEED WE WILL KEEP IT SECURE DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, BUT ACCESSIBLE IF FOLKS NEED TO GET OUT DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. SO THAT MONEY IS STILL THERE, MISS TAYLOR. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IS, IS IT SPENT ON ADDITIONAL CAMERAS AND THAT TYPE OF PROTECTION, OR IS IT SPENT ON FENCING? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? SO ANY QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS OR MR. BARNES, HOW MANY GATES DID YOU SAY IT WAS? I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY, MISS ANDREWS. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
BUT WE I KNOW WE PUT ONE DOUBLE GATE ON THE LEFT SIDE, ONE DOUBLE GATE ON THE BACK.
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AT LEAST AROUND. OKAY. AROUND FOUR. OKAY. THE BACK WOULD HAVE TWO BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE A DOUBLE GATE ON THE PLAYGROUND AREA WHERE IT EMPTIES OUT INTO THE WHAT'S NOW THE DISC GOLF AREA. WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT A PEDESTRIAN GATE AT A MINIMUM IN THE BACK LEFT CORNER FOR THAT PATH.YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME TEACHERS AT PARK AT SCOTLAND WALK EVERY DAY, SO I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, ONE ON EACH SIDE, TWO ON THE BACK AND AGAIN, NO FENCING WHATSOEVER ON THE FRONT.
THE FIRST QUOTE, THE FIRST QUOTES WE GOT WAS FULL FENCING, CANTILEVER ROLLING GATES, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS, THE WHOLE THING. ONCE WE DISCUSSED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OVER, WE WENT BACK TO ONE OF THE THE LOW QUOTE WE HAD AND SAID, HEY, IF WE DID THIS PROJECT AND WE REMOVED EVERYTHING ALONG COURTHOUSE ROAD, WHAT WOULD IT BE? AND IT WAS 74,000 AND SOME CHANGE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. BARNES. YES, SIR. IN THE PAST, ON THE ROOFING SCHEDULES THAT WE HAD, DIDN'T WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT GAVE US THE ROOFING SCHEDULE? YES, SIR. WE STILL DO. APRIL. APRIL MCKELVEY WITH MONARCH ROOFING CONSULTANTS.
APRIL IS STILL VERY MUCH INVOLVED WITH US AS WE HAVE PROJECTS COME ON BOARD.
SHE IS THE ONE THAT'S UPDATED THE PRICE FOR US ON THE BEASLEY ROOFING SECTIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE UPDATED PRICING ON THE REMAINING CLEMENTS SECTION THAT WERE NOT DONE TWO YEARS AGO.
SHE'S SHE'S MORE OF AN ON CALL SERVICE. I WOULD LIKEN HER TO TYLER FROM MOSLEY WHEN WE WERE DOING ENGINEERING PROJECTS THROUGH HIM. SHE IS STILL VERY MUCH HERE. YES, SIR. IN THE PAST, WE FOLLOWED THAT SCHEDULE TO DO ROOFING, AND I THINK THE NARRATIVE THAT WE DIDN'T DO ROOFING WAS FALSE, BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE DID A LOT OF ROOFS AND HAVE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT OF THE ROOFS.
AND THEN I THINK LAST YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE FIASCO WITH THE THE REAL ESTATE TAX AND THE ASSESSMENTS OUR CONTINGENCY THAT WE USE TO KNOCK OFF ROOFING PROJECTS WAS TAKEN FROM US BY THE COUNTY.
THAT WAS $1 MILLION, WASN'T IT? I BELIEVE YOU WERE CORRECT.
YES, SIR. WE 100% HAVE A CIP LIST. I'VE. I'VE EMAILED THAT TO DOCTOR LYLE AND DOCTOR MARTIN, AND I BELIEVE I COPIED YOU ALL IN THE MOST RECENT REQUEST.
FRIDAY, FRIDAY EVENING. THAT SHOWS YOU WE ARE 100% ON PACE.
ON TARGET WITH OUR CIP ROOFING PROJECTS UP TO THIS YEAR.
THERE IS NO FUNDING. THERE IS NO ANNUAL FUNDING FOR THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, IF YOU WILL, IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET. THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR THESE ROOFING PROJECTS IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.
CORRECT? 100% CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT ON OUR CIP LIST, BASED ON AGE AND LIFE SERVICE, IS THE REMAINDER OF THE CLEMENTS PROJECT. THE REASON THAT WE PUT THE BEASLEY.
AND I THINK PUTTING A NEW ROOF ON BEASLEY IS CONCERNING TO ME.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY AND IT'S NOT WORTH THE BATTLE OVER.
NEW ROOFS ARE ALWAYS NICE. SO AND JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME JUST SOME IDEA OF OF WHAT CONTINUING TO PUNT THIS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDING AND I'M NOT THAT'S I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO ANYBODY ON OUR BOARD, THEIR BOARD OR IN GENERAL.
BUT WHEN WE FIRST GOT A QUOTE AFTER WE DID THE 60% SECTION OF BEASLEY, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, CLEMENTS, WE WERE TOLD BY APRIL THAT THE 40% WOULD BE IN THE $645,000 RANGE.
THAT PRICE TODAY IS $815,000. AND THEY ALWAYS ENCOURAGE US TO ADD A 10% OVERAGE TO IT.
SO IT'S IN OUR CURRENT CIP BUDGET AT $900,000, AND IT STARTED AT 645 OF IN 22.
YES, SIR. IN 22. CAN I HAVE A QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
SO WHEN YOU SAY $1 MILLION WAS TAKEN, WHO? SO THE COUNTY SAID TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
I'M TAKING $1 MILLION FROM YOU. UNFORTUNATELY, MISS CHRISTOFF WAS NOT PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.
SO I, I RECALL HEARING OF THOSE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF DOCTOR MARTIN HAS ANY RECOLLECTION OF IT, BUT I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THE HISTORICALLY MILLION DOLLARS LESS THAN WHAT OUR BUDGET WAS THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
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SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ROLLOVER MONEY FROM 23.THAT WASN'T ROLLOVER MONEY, IT WAS THE BUDGET MONEY, NOT ROLLOVER.
LIKE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD. NO, MA'AM.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M. THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.
NO, MA'AM. THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS NOT SAID THAT. OKAY. THE.
MR. JOHNSON, IF I'M CORRECT, ARE YOU REFERRING TO.
WE HAD $1 MILLION OF UNSPENT FUNDS FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET.
THAT SHOULD THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO US AS CONTINGENCY.
NO, NO, NO, OUR OUR APPROPRIATION WAS $1 MILLION LESS BECAUSE THE REAL ESTATE ISSUES AND THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO HOLD THE REAL ESTATE VALUES AND THE TAX WAS GOING TO BE LESS.
SO THEY TOOK $1 MILLION OF THAT, WHICH WAS FUNDED ONE YEAR.
THAT WAS $1 MILLION LESS THE NEXT YEAR. IT WAS OUR CONTINGENCY FUND THAT THEY TOOK, AND THEY SAID WE COULD GO TO THEM FOR CONTINGENCY. AND THE CAPITAL MONEY THAT THE THE COUNTY BOARD CONTINUES TO REFERENCE IN BACK TO THE CHAIR VICE CHAIR MEETING LAST YEAR THAT MRS. ANDREWS AND MISS TAYLOR WERE IN, AND ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS MEETING OF LAST TUESDAY OF THE ROOFING MONEY THEY GAVE US.
IT WAS NOT $5 MILLION, AND WE SQUANDERED IT ON ANYTHING ELSE.
IT WAS $640,000 THAT WAS USED ON ROOFING PROJECTS SHORT OF ABOUT $19,000.
SO THAT MONEY WAS $640,000, AND ALL OF IT EXCEPT FOR 19,000.
AND SOME CHANGE WAS USED ON ROOFING PROJECTS IN THIS SCHOOL DIVISION BETWEEN 2015 AND 2020.
AND THEN 107 569. WE NEVER GOT TO THE OTHER NIGHT.
THE MEETING, BECAUSE THEY SENT US BACK TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN TO SEE IF WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE IT.
YES. AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION THAT.
THEY MAYBE THEY DID. SOMEBODY DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT TO WHERE BEASLEY ROOFING WAS PART OF THAT $107,000 THAT WE COULD HAVE FINISHED THAT NIGHT TO GET PART OF THAT GOING.
WE COULD HAVE WE IT WOULD NOT HAVE DONE ENTIRE SECTIONS LIKE MISS ANDREWS TALKED ABOUT, BUT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY WOULD DO THE THE G, THE ENTIRE G BUILDING. ALL FOUR SECTIONS ARE UP FOR REPLACEMENT.
THE GYM ITSELF IS BY FAR THE WORST. SO IF THE COUNTY HAD ONLY APPROVED THE 107 569, WE WOULD HAVE GONE IN AND DONE AS MANY OF THE SECTIONS AS WE COULD HAVE AFFORDED ON THAT BUDGET. IT WAS NOT APPROVED LAST TUESDAY NIGHT ALONG WITH THIS.
SO NOW THAT WE KNOW IF IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD A ROOFING SECTION, THE BEAZLEY ROOFING SECTIONS G AND B, WE CAN COMBINE THE TWO BECAUSE THEY ARE I'VE STOOD RIGHT HERE AND ASKED MRS. DRURY, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO BE COMBINED IN THE SAME LINE AND THE CAPITAL FUND? AND SHE SAID, IF THAT WAS OUR DESIRE, SO THAT WOULD BE OUR DESIRE TO COMBINE THEM SO WE CAN UTILIZE THE 175 69 IF THE BOARD'S WILL IS NOT TO INCLUDE THE BEAZLEY ROOFING SECTIONS G AND B AND THE $2 MILLION REQUEST, WE WOULD TAKE THE 107,000 AND STILL APPLY IT TO ROOFING.
IT JUST WOULDN'T BE NEARLY AS MUCH. AND IN MY CONVERSATION WITH MR. BROWN AFTER THE MEETING AND I LEFT IT AS IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING, MEANING, YOU AND MISS DOCTOR LAW AND MISS CHRISTIE WERE THERE THAT NIGHT, AND I WATCHED THE MEETING.
MR. BROWN SAID. NO, THAT'S NOT THE WAY. IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PERCEIVED THAT WAY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS INTENDED TO BE PERCEIVED. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK WITH ROOFING PROJECTS, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, HE SAID IT WAS THERE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE PERCEPTION.
AND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU PUBLICLY THAT YOU STOOD THERE AND YOU TOOK THAT WITH A LOT OF GRACE AND DIGNITY, BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE GONE OFF THE RAIL AND YOU DID NOT.
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YOU TOOK IT, AND I APPRECIATE IT, BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE YOU COULD HAVE TURNED THAT HAYWIRE AND YOU COULD HAVE TAKEN THAT A TOTAL DIFFERENT DIRECTION.AND YOU DID NOT. AND I APPRECIATE IT. AND I THINK THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS DO AS WELL.
SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU, IF WE DON'T WANT TO SEND IT BACK ACROSS THE STREET WITH ROOFING PROJECTS, AFTER MY CONVERSATION WITH MR. BROWN, THAT WAS NOT THE PERCEPTION.
AND THEN SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS MAY GO AWAY.
AND THEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED TO TAKE A CHUNK OF CLEMENTS WHEN WE HAVE, YES, SOME MONEY.
YES. AND THE CLEMENTS, IF IT CAME DOWN TO WHERE FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE PAID WITH PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS TO ANSWER TO THE YOUR OUR BOARD, THE COUNTY BOARD, IF WE HAVE TO THE TAXPAYERS. I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK TO THE MARCH 11TH MEETING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS SOME APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH FOOD SERVICES AND GRANT FUNDS. AND THEN WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK APRIL 8TH TO TO WITH OUR FINAL DETAIL HERE, AND WE'LL STAND BEHIND IT.
WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT HERE. I UNDERSTAND COMING IN WITH DIFFERENT PRICING FOR THE NORTH LIGHTS AND THE SOFTBALL FIELD COULD BE PERCEIVED AS WE WERE HIDING SOMETHING. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE $2,082,000 BUDGET THAT WE SENT OVER WAS NOT GOING TO BE REQUESTED TO BE INCREASED.
IT WAS GOING TO BE THE BUDGET WENT OVER ON THE LIGHTS.
WE NEED TO CUT OUT A CAR. BUT THE WAY THAT THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN THE IN THE CIP, EXCUSE ME, IN THEIR CAPITAL FUND WOULD BE IF THE LIGHTS WENT OVER BUDGET AND WE HAD TO CUT OUT A CAR, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER BOARD MEETING AND ASK THEM PERMISSION. LIKE EVERY TIME WE WANTED TO CHANGE SOMETHING. SO TO ME, IT WAS BETTER TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH BETSY THAT MORNING AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO PUNT OR WE NEED TO HAVE SOME LATITUDE IN THIS.
YES. AND WHEN THEY WANT TO ADVERTISE IT AS 65,000, 65,000.
AND THE WAY WE WOULD APPROACH IT ON OUR END IS IF ANY OF THESE PROJECTS COMES IN LIKE WAY UNDER BUDGET OR WAY OVER BUDGET, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO LATER ON. WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, THE DUST IS SETTLED, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE $107,000.
THERE'S $1,200 IN THIS LINE. THERE'S $1,400 IN THIS LINE.
THERE'S $83 IN THIS LINE. WE'D LIKE TO COMBINE THEM ALL INTO ONE MORE THING THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED ON THAT LIST, AND SPEND THE REST OF THE MONEY. WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON IT.
THE OBJECT DETECTORS ARE EVEN THOUGH WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WE'VE MOVED THEM TO THE SECURITY GRANT, THEY'VE BEEN UPDATED. THE ZERO TURN MOWERS ARE ACCURATE.
NUMBERS FROM THE ZERO FROM THE EXMARK DEALER, WHICH IS THE LOWEST PRICE MOWER.
WE KNOW WHERE WE STAND WITH THE TRACTOR. WELL, THE FRONT DOOR REPLACEMENT IS CARRAWAY.
WE'LL HAVE TO BID IT. BUT THE BID WE GOT FROM CARRAWAY IS. IS THAT SO? WE CAN'T GET ANY WORSE. WE'RE WE'RE CONFIDENT WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD.
WHATEVER YOU ALL'S WILL IS IF THE BOARD'S WILL IS TO INCLUDE A ROOFING PROJECT. I WOULD TOTALLY AGREE WITH MR. ELY'S STATEMENTS AND SENTIMENTS ABOUT THE COUNTY. IT ALSO GETS US A ONE SMALL STEP AHEAD BECAUSE AS THE EMAIL I SENT YOU ON FRIDAY NIGHT SAID, OUR ROOFING PROJECT, IT'S A SEVEN YEAR PLAN. SO IT'S NO, IT'S NO RUSH, BUT IT IS $7.1 MILLION.
SO 300,000 IS NOT GOING TO PUT A BIG DENT IN IT.
900,000 IS NOT GOING TO PUT A BIG DENT IN IT.
BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE BABY STEPS. AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU TO MR. BROWN FOR HAVING AN OPEN CONVERSATION WITH ME.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT AT TIMES, BUT HE WAS WILLING TO LISTEN AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND I YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SPOKE TO JEFF, MR. STOKES. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE WILLING TO LISTEN TO US.
SO I'LL OPEN IT TO THE BOARD FOR ANY MORE QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? IS THIS WHAT WE WANT TO SEND? SO BOARD, I OPEN IT BACK UP TO YOU OR DOCTOR LYLE IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
DOCTOR MARTIN. OKAY, SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT MR. JOHNSON ASKED A FEW MINUTES AGO. I THINK IT BEARS REPEATING THAT MR. BARNES, WE ARE ON TRACK IN TERMS OF OUR ROOFING PROJECTS BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM APRIL MCKELVEY, OUR ROOFING CONSULTANT. CORRECT.
AND WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON TRACK WITH WITH HER FEEDBACK.
CORRECT. WE ARE ON TRACK WITH HER FEEDBACK. YES, SIR.
THEY WERE SPACED OUT ON YEARS, KNOWING THAT WE USUALLY HAVE AROUND $1 MILLION A YEAR IN CONTINGENCY TO SPEND ON CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND THE YEARS WERE MARKED BASED ON THAT. WE ARE 100% ON TRACK WITH THAT.
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THE 60%, EXCUSE ME, 40% SECTION OF CLEMENTS IS ON THERE FOR THIS YEAR, PROVIDED THERE IS FUNDING THOUSAND DOLLARS.IF WE WANTED TO WORK THAT $900,000 INTO THIS 2 MILLION.
LOTS OF STUFF GOES AWAY. YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE CUTTING PROBABLY THE THREE SCHOOL BUSSES.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE WITH $25,000 SCOREBOARDS AND $11,000 GYM LIGHTS.
SO YES, WE ARE ON TARGET, AND THIS $2 MILLION INCLUDES 300 AND OF $374,300 ROOFING PROJECT.
SO THE 40% FOR COMETS IS WHAT WE NEED TO FINISH, AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE.
YES, MA'AM. THE OTHER SECTION IS TWO YEARS OLD. TWO YEARS OLD.
OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AND THAT CAME IN JUST UNDER $1 MILLION, TWO, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS AGO.
REALLY? BECAUSE WE BID IT AND THE BEASLEY I KNOW IN SOMETHING I LOOKED AT THIS WEEKEND THE BEASLEY ROOF WAS LIKE THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL, LIKE NUMBER 13 OR SOMETHING, WHICH TO ME DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
SO THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION ON BEASLEY AS A WHOLE.
NO, I MEANT NOT THIS. I MEANT ON APRIL'S LIST.
THE REASON THAT WE CHOSE THE BEASLEY ROOF PROJECT FOR THIS BUDGET TONIGHT IS WE BROUGHT IN RON, FRANK AND TYRONE, WHO HANDLE MOST OF OUR FRANK AND TYRONE HANDLE MOST OF OUR INTERNAL PATCHES AND REPAIRS.
AND WE SAID, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, CHILD? THEY ALWAYS GO TO MORE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO MORE.
THAT'S NOT EVEN REALISTIC AT THIS POINT. SO IT WAS IF I SAY I SAID IF WE HAD THIS OR THIS, THE CONSENSUS AMONGST OUR TEAM THAT DEALS WITH THIS ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS WAS THAT THESE TWO SECTIONS, SECTIONS OF BEASLEY, NEED TO BE DONE IF THERE'S FUNDING AHEAD OF ANYTHING ELSE IN OUR DIVISION.
AND I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I WILL NOT VOTE ON IT IF BEASLEY DOESN'T GET THEIR STUFF, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE AND IT'S RIDICULOUS HOW BAD IT LOOKS. THAT IS THE ENTIRE B BUILDING, MAIN OFFICE, LIBRARY.
WE JUST PUT NEW CARPET IN THERE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST, LIKE I SAID, IS IN THIS PROPOSAL, AND IT COVERS ALL OF IT.
YEAH. AND IT WASN'T ON HERE. I JUST KNOW THAT LIST.
AND I WAS LIKE, HOW CAN THAT BE? IT'S LEAKING.
RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S BUILDING AGE AS A WHOLE.
IT WASN'T THAT. I MEAN, SHE MADE THAT LIST FIVE YEARS AGO.
RIGHT, RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO IT THIS IS MODERN.
I MEAN REALISTIC TODAY TIMES. IT NEEDS TO BE ON THIS LIST.
YES, IT DEFINITELY DOES. IT DEFINITELY DOES. OKAY.
THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE WHEN WE'RE WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
ALSO JUST SO YOU ALL ARE AWARE. SO WE HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY.
I WAS ASKED THIS WEEK ABOUT THE SCORE. LAST WEEK ABOUT THE SCOREBOARDS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE BASEBALL DIGITAL ELECTRONIC SCOREBOARD DOES NOT WORK WHATSOEVER.
THE SOFTBALL ONE DOES WORK, BUT IT'S THE SAME AGE AS THE BASEBALL.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO REPLACE BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THAT IS I SUPPOSE, COULD BE PERCEIVED AS A WANT IF THERE WERE ANY WANTS ON THIS LIST.
BUT THE HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL SCOREBOARD, ELECTRONIC SCOREBOARD DOES NOT WORK WHATSOEVER.
YEAH, THEY USE THE MANUAL ONE THAT YOU HAVE TO HANG THE NUMBERS ON.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE GO AWAY BECAUSE IT'S A BIG SAFETY HAZARD.
YEAH I AGREE. IT'S THERE'S NO RAILING. IT'S JUST KIDS UP THERE ON, LIKE, A 4X4 FOOT WIDE CHALKBOARD.
HANGING NUMBERS. OKAY. LIKE EBBETS FIELD? YES.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A BATHROOM OVER THERE. YEAH, I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE.
I GO TO CHURCH WITH, THEIR GRANDSON PLAYS BASEBALL.
SO IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO SEE SOME BATHROOMS DOWN THERE FOR THE SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS.
MR. YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION, MR. JOHNSON? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE I ASK? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY, SO THE ONE VAN REPLACED THE 2019 DODGE CARAVAN THAT WE HAVE $0 THERE FOR. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED IF WE DID NOT HAVE OTHER TRANSPORT VEHICLE STUDENT TRANSPORT VEHICLES IN THIS REQUEST? YES. THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER ALREADY INCLUDED IN THIS.
WE CAN GET BY WITHOUT IT IF IT IF IT'S A IT'S A MIX OF TRYING TO PLEASE EVERYTHING,
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NOT PLEASE EVERYTHING, TRYING TO PROVIDE EVERYTHING THAT IS NEEDED ACROSS THE DIVISION.WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHERE YOU HAVE TO CUT SOMETHING OUT, WHERE DO YOU CUT? IF WE'RE GETTING FIVE VEHICLES WE WERE HOPING TO GET SIX.
WE CAN LIVE WITH THAT. IF WE WERE GETTING TWO VEHICLES AND NOW WE'RE ONLY GETTING ONE.
I WOULD PROPOSE THE TRACTOR, I WOULD PROPOSE THE SCOREBOARDS, I WOULD PROPOSE SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING SO MANY OTHER SEVERAL OTHER VEHICLES ON THIS LINE, IT.
I THINK WE WOULD BE OKAY. IF I COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. BRUBAKER AND AND MISS CHRISTOPHER, AND THEY COULD SAY, I BELIEVE YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ABOUT 150 OF THOSE SMART BOARDS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. HOW MANY SMART BOARDS? AND THAT THAT ONLY PROVIDES ABOUT 20.
SO IF THEY IF 20 TO THEM IS BETTER THAN NONE, THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO LEAVE THE 39 570 IN THERE.
IF THEY CAN'T HAVE 100, THEY DON'T WANT ANY. THEN WE COULD PUT THE VAN BACK.
BUT THAT'S NOT OKAY. WE FELT LIKE AS MANY TIMES AS I'VE BEEN OVER THIS BUDGET, AND I'VE JUST TOLD MR. ELY RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, AND I TOLD SCOTT, TOO. I SHOULD HAVE CHANGED THE COLORS IN THEM BECAUSE I, WE I'VE BEEN IN THIS SO MANY TIMES IN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS THAT I ACTUALLY SENT MRS. KIRK THE WRONG ONE THIS MORNING TO UPLOAD TO BOARDDOCS, BECAUSE THE COLORS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
THE NUMBERS ARE JUST DIFFERENT AS YOU GO DOWN. I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS BUDGET SO MANY TIMES BEFORE THE MEETINGS, BEFORE OUR MEETING AT THE TRAINING ROOM. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS GOING TO THE COUNTY.
COMING TONIGHT, ALL DAY TODAY, EVERY TIME SOMETHING COMES UP.
I'VE LOOKED AT IT SO MANY TIMES. I JUST THINK THIS IS AS FAIR AS IT GETS.
TRANSPORTATION'S GETTING THE VEHICLES THAT THEY NEED.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE VEHICLES WITH OVER 160 000 MILES ON THEM.
US DO IS OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT GOING TO FALL APART TOMORROW IF WE DON'T GET THAT NEW TRACTOR? NO. BUT ARE THEY RUNNING AROUND WITH A 1980. EARLY 1980S FORD TRACTOR? 100%. DID WE HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO RENT ONE WHICH WAS GRACIOUSLY DONATED LAST YEAR TO SET UP THE GRADUATION STAGE? YES. SO THIS ALLOWS US TO ACCOMPLISH AT LEAST REPLACING THAT TRACTOR AND HAVING IT FOR DAILY USE AROUND THE DIVISION, AS WELL AS GRADUATION AND ALL THE OTHER EVENTS WE HAVE.
IF WE STARTED CUTTING EVEN MORE, THEN THE TRACTOR PROBABLY WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS TO GO.
AND THOSE THOSE THE PRICE FOR THE TWO SCOREBOARDS, $25,000 WILL DO TWO, IT WILL DO TWO.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THERE'S ZERO TURN MOWERS.
THAT WAS THREE. THAT IS THREE. AND THAT IS EXCUSE ME I APOLOGIZE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY FOUR. THEY CAME IN WAY UNDER BUDGET OF WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING.
WE WENT TO THREE DIFFERENT DEALERS FOR THREE DIFFERENT BRANDS.
OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM PREFERS THE EXMARK BRAND.
WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT TWO OTHER BRANDS JUST TO SEE WHAT WAS OUT THERE.
AND THE EXMARK CAME IN LIKE IT'S THE 72 INCH MOWER FROM EXMARK.
IS $6,000 LESS EXPENSIVE THAN OTHER BRANDS? AND IT'S THE BRAND.
ARE THE TWO GENTLEMEN THAT SPEND THE MOST TIME ON A LAWN MOWER PREFER.
SO IT WORKED OUT FOR EVERYBODY. HERE WE GO. I BELIEVE THAT'S 272 IS A 60 AND A 48, AND THEY WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN RON'S TEAM AND LEN'S TEAM BECAUSE LEN'S GUYS CUT, CUT SMALLER AREAS SO THEY GET THE SMALLER DECKS.
RON'S GUYS CUT THE BIG AREAS. THEY GET THE BIGGER DECKS WITH THE AWNINGS.
ARE THESE MAINLY NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE OBJECT DETECTORS? OR IT'S A CONVENIENCE AND THE KIDS WON'T GET WET.
THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS NEVER HAD AN AWNING. THEY HAVE A HUGE AWNING ON THERE WHERE THE BUSSES UNLOAD, BUT THERE IS NO AWNING. THE I DON'T KNOW, 60 YARDS PROBABLY TO THE BUILDING.
SO WOULD IT BE NICE FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT AWNING THERE IN GENERAL? ABSOLUTELY. SAME THING AT NORTH. THEY HAVE THAT NICE, BIG, BEAUTIFUL SCHOOL THAT WAS BUILT IN 2008 AND THEY'VE NEVER HAD AWNINGS AT THEIR AT THEIR STUDENT DROP OFFS. ANY OF THOSE THINGS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF WE DIDN'T PURCHASE ANY OBJECT DETECTORS ANYWHERE, THEN WE PROBABLY WOULD THROUGH THE SECURITY GRANT, WE PROBABLY COULD REMOVE ALL THAT MONEY AND SPEND IT ON ANOTHER PROJECT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY. DO WE HAVE SCHOOLS THAT ASK US FOR AWNINGS EVERY YEAR, OR AS IT COMES UP, AS PART OF CONVERSATION? 100% HARRISON. HARRISON HAS AN AWNING FOR THEIR TEACHERS TO STAND UNDER AT PARENT PICKUP,
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BUT THERE'S NO AWNING FROM THE SCHOOL TO THAT AWNING. SO THEY WOULD LIKE IT CONNECTED.WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO RUN OBJECT DETECTORS, WE NEED TO HAVE ONE WHERE THE BUS DROPS OFF AND THOSE KIDS GO IN DOWN, DOWN TWO DOORS. SO AGAIN, COULD WE SURVIVE WITHOUT AWNINGS WHATSOEVER IF WE DIDN'T HAVE OBJECT DETECTORS? YES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. IF OBJECT DETECTOR, IF WE INSTALLED ALL THESE AWNINGS BECAUSE OF THE OBJECT DETECTORS, AND THERE'S SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY OR SOMETHING CHANGE WHERE WE NEVER HAD TO WAIT OUTSIDE AGAIN WITH THESE PRINCIPLES, BE UPSET THEY GOT NEW AWNINGS. I DON'T THINK SO.
THEY WOULDN'T BE UPSET THAT WE SPENT THE MONEY ON THIS. SO.
IF WE WERE TASKED WITH CUTTING SOMETHING OUT OUT OF THIS BUDGET, SOMETHING ELSE OUT OF THIS BUDGET, THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION BETWEEN HAVING THE OBJECT DETECTORS AND THE AWNINGS OR NOT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE YOUR NEXT BIG TICKET THINGS.
AND THE OBJECT DETECTORS, ALL THAT STUFF THAT'S AT THE TOP.
IN THIS SCENARIO FROM THE SECURITY GRANT. YES, MA'AM.
THE ONLY REASON WE HAVEN'T YET. AND WE NEED TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON OUR END.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT MONEY EXPENDED AND THE PRODUCTS ON SITE AND THE INVOICES PAID BY JUNE 30TH.
IT IS NOT A SET FOR EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH SECURITY GRANT MONEY. WE HAVE ENOUGH TO BUY ONE SET THAT CAN BE MOVED AROUND TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WHICH IS A WASTE BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE CALIBRATED EVERY TIME IT'S MOVED, CORRECT? WELL, YES, THEY ALL ARE, BUT THEY IT'S JUST THE CALIBRATION IS SIMPLY ARE THEY WITHIN 30, WITHIN SO MANY INCHES OF EACH OTHER.
AND THEY, THEY SELL YOU A BRICK. THEY DON'T SELL IT.
IT'S INCLUDED. SO TECHNICALLY THEY SELL IT A BRICK THAT YOU HANDLE, THAT YOU WALK THROUGH IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE WORKING. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT TERRIBLY RIGHT. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT VERY IT'S NOT TERRIBLY BURDENSOME.
I'M STILL BAFFLED ON HOW WE GOT HERE. I'M STILL TRYING TO PROCESS, SO I APOLOGIZE.
I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS.
I DON'T REMEMBER ANYONE SAYING ABOUT ROOFS NOW I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE VICE CHAIR FOR MEETING THE GROUPS DID NOT COME UP IN THOSE MEETINGS.
MR. BARNES EXPLAINED THE MONEY THAT WAS 107 569 THAT THE THAT WOULD BE FOR CONTINGENT THE ROLLOVER MONEY FROM PROJECTS THAT WERE LEFT OVER MIDDLE ROAD, OTHER ROOFING, OTHER ROOFING PROJECTS.
THERE WERE MONEY WAS LEFT OVER AND BATHROOM RENOVATIONS.
CHAIR. VICE CHAIR MEETING. THEY DID NOT COME UP AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
THAT WAS WHEN THEY CAME UP. CAME UP ON OURS. RIGHT.
VICE CHAIR. THE OTHER PART OF THE WAS NOT. SO THEY THEY REALIZED WE HAVE THE 107 FIVE, SIX NINE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE US. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND I'M NOT.
MR. BROWN'S NOT TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM.
THERE WAS SOME LEVEL OF MAYBE NOT UNDERSTANDING THE 107 FIVE, SIX, NINE.
44 WHEN HE AND I TALKED THE NEXT DAY, I SAID, WE DIDN'T GET TO THAT, BUT THAT WAS FOR A PART OF THE ROOFING PROJECT AT BEASLEY THAT WE NEVER GOT TO DISCUSS THAT WE DID DISCUSS IN THE CHAIR VICE CHAIR MEETING AND HE SAID, OKAY, SO THEY DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS THERE, BUT WE NEVER GOT TO IT FOR PATRICK TO EXPLAIN AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT THAT I DID. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE TAPE BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL, BUT I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT WE GOT TO THAT. I SAID THE $107,000, WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA A COUPLE TIMES, AND MAYBE WE WE JUST DIDN'T REALIZE OR MAYBE IT WASN'T A BIG ENOUGH NUMBER TO WOW THEM.
RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE NOTES FROM JUNE WHEN WE GAVE THE $750 BONUS THAT THE LEAKS AND BEASLEY LIBRARY WOULD BE USED FOR CARRYOVER, THE ROOF AT CLEMENTS,
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THE CEILING PAINTING, AND MORE. THE ROOF AT MOORE, 60% OF THE ROOF HAS BEEN REPLACED AT CLEMENTS.WE HAD A MEETING IN EARLY MAY, BUT AT THAT TIME WE HAD AN INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT AND A CFO THAT WAS ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR, AND NOBODY EVER CAME OVER HERE AND ASKED THE COUNTY TO MOVE THAT MONEY. OKAY.
AND WHEN I PULL THE FINANCIAL REPORT AND I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH.
WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE WE'RE TRENDING IN THE SAME, RIGHT AROUND THE SAME.
SO IF WE HAD 2 MILLION, THEN WE GOT $5 MILLION IN NEW MONEY.
COME MAY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SITTING ON MORE.
SO I IS THE PLAN THEN TO GO BACK THROUGH ALL OF THIS AGAIN.
DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY GO NEXT DOOR NOW AND ASK TO ALLOCATE $1 MILLION OF THAT FOR ROOFS? I DON'T KNOW. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE HERE.
I DON'T SEE WHY. IF WE DO GET THIS MONEY ALLOCATED BACK TO US.
WILL WE SPEND THIS MONEY BY JUNE? NO, MA'AM, WE DON'T HAVE TO.
WE WILL SPEND AS MUCH AS WE CAN. IF. IF THIS MONEY GETS APPROVED, IF THEY ADVERTISE ON APRIL 8TH, IT GETS APPROVED IN MAY 8TH, NINTH, 10TH, WHATEVER THE DATE IS.
AND LET'S SAY. BETSY. MISS. EXCUSE ME, MRS. DRURY.
LET'S ME KNOW ON MAY 15TH THAT THE MONEY'S IN THE LINE.
IT WILL ROLL OVER INTO THE NEXT YEAR. WE WILL JUMP ON THE THINGS THAT WE CAN.
WE WILL WE CAN BUY CARS FROM STATE CONTRACT IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE ON THE LOT.
WE'LL HAVE THEM IN A COUPLE DAYS. BUSSES COULD BE 15 MONTHS.
THE LIGHT PROJECT AT THE AT THE SOFTBALL FIELD WILL PROBABLY BE THE FALL, AND THAT'S OKAY.
THE SCOREBOARDS WILL BE IN BEFORE NEXT SOFTBALL SEASON, BUT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT.
WE WON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM AND ASK TO ROLL OVER MONEY LIKE WE DID WITH THE HARRISON HVAC THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR PO. SO WE HAD TO ASK THEM PERMISSION TO ROLL IT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T FINISHED.
YES, MA'AM. IT IS ALMOST IDENTICAL AS FAR AS PERCENTAGE WISE.
SO COME MAY, TOWARDS THE END OF JUNE, YOU ALMOST I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE AND I GUESS YOU COULD YOU WOULD BE THE ONE COULD PREDICT THERE'S GOING TO BE EXCESS FUNDING AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH.
THE SAME AS THIS. SO IF WE ALREADY KNOW THAT, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, DOCTOR LYLE, HOW DO WE PREVENT THIS FROM GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN? WE NEED TO ONCE WE DECIDE, ONCE WE DECIDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THEN ONCE WE LOOK AT OTHER PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED AND CAN GO AHEAD AND TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL.
BECAUSE I WILL SAY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE'S ALWAYS MONEY LEFT OVER IS BECAUSE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, THINGS GO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO MOVE THINGS AROUND, LIKE THE FUEL, YOU KNOW, THE FUEL WENT CRAZY THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
WE'RE ASKING RIGHT NOW FOR 2 MILLION. IT'S IRRELEVANT.
I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW WE HAD $2 MILLION.
WE CAME TOGETHER, WE DEVELOPED THIS. WE GO ACROSS THE STREET AND NOW ROOFS ARE DROP EVERYTHING AND DO ROOFS WHEN WE STILL HAVE ALMOST $2 MILLION IN OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW. TODAY. TRENDING ALONG THE SAME LINE.
WHY ISN'T SOMEBODY GOING NEXT DOOR RIGHT NOW SAYING LOOK TRENDING ALONG ALMOST VERBATIM? WE KNOW THIS. TAKE 2 MILLION, GO PUT IT INTO CIP.
PATRICK. START DOING SOME ROOFS BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?
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WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK HERE AGAIN. WHO KNOWS.NEXT. WE MIGHT MIGHT BE CONCRETE. NEXT. WHO KNOWS.
I MEAN THE CRAZY THAT THIS IS A CRAZY. I'M SORRY.
I'M JUST BAFFLED AT IT. I CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT, I REALLY CAN'T.
IF WE TAKE $2 MILLION OF OUR BUDGETED MONEY AND TELL PATRICK TO GO SPEND IT, AND SOMETHING GOES HAYWIRE, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY IN MAY OR JUNE. THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK ACROSS THE STREET AND ASK THEM TO ALLOCATE MORE MONEY TO US FOR THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU WANT TO SAY, OKAY MR. BARNES, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE YOU $500,000 TO DO IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND IT DOWN TO ZERO, BECAUSE I'M NOT SAYING I LIKE ALL YOU PEOPLE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO JAIL.
IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING FIRST OF ALL. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN WHAT WAS ALLOCATED.
I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WHEN YOU LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THE MAJORITY, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OF THAT 2 MILLION WAS IN SALARIES THAT IS BEING LEFT OVER.
IT IS WHEN YOU PULL THE FINANCIAL FOR 25 AND COMPARE IT TO 24, IT'S ALMOST IDENTICAL.
THAT IS WITH $5 MILLION OF NEW MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR.
SO I HAVE A PROBLEM REMOVING ALL OF THE STUFF FROM THIS $2 MILLION AND ADDING ROOFS WHEN WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS SAME EXACT ROUTE THIS YEAR. IF WE KNOW THE PROBLEM IS THERE, WHY ARE WE NOT ADDRESSING IT NOW? MR. SORENSEN? I THINK WHAT MRS CHRIS IS SAYING IS, DO WE HAVE PROJECT READY US? DO WE HAVE, I GUESS, SHOVEL READY PROJECTS THAT IF WE HAD THE MONEY AND WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE EXTRA AND IF WE COULD GET ALLOCATED IN THE RIGHT CATEGORY, COULD WE DO THEM? BECAUSE THIS IS A VICIOUS CYCLE THAT WE GO OVER, THROUGH, OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND WE'VE TAKEN IT TO THE STATE LEGISLATORS TO WITH THIS PROBLEM.
NOT ALL COUNTIES AND CITIES OPERATE THE WAY WE DO.
SOME OF IT'S AUTOMATIC. IT GOES INTO A FUND FOR CIP AND THEY TAKE OFF FROM THE CIP LIST.
EVERYONE DOES IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, AND THEY STATE LEGISLATORS EVEN PASSED A LAW THAT IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR CARRYOVER FUND IS, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ALLOCATE IT AND USE IT. BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE THE END OF, OF THE YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE THE HARD THING IS THERE.
IT'S JUST A VICIOUS CYCLE. SO IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING.
I THINK THE ANSWER MISS CHRIS, IS WITH THE STATE LEGISLATORS AND AND TRYING TO ADVOCATE THERE, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS TRYING TO CHANGE THIS PROCESS.
BUT IT'S JUST YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. IT'S JUST REDUNDANT.
WE GO OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND IT GETS BETTER.
IF YOU HAVE PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN SPEND THE MONEY IN THE RIGHT CATEGORY.
AND IT MADE IT TOUGHER WHEN WE GOT CATEGORICAL FUNDING PRIOR TO THAT, WE COULD MOVE THE MONEY, THE SCHOOL BOARD TO CERTAIN PROJECTS AND GET THOSE DONE IF YOU CAN GET THEM DONE IN THE TIME FRAME.
SO SORRY TO GO ON THE DISCOURSE THERE, MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU. SO EXCUSE ME, MR. SORENSON, TO ANSWER MR. JOHNSON AND MRS. CHRIS QUESTION IF YOU IF IF MR. SORENSON TELLS YOU TODAY THAT THERE THAT HE FEELS COMFORTABLE RELEASING $500,000 AND WE GO TO THE NEXT COUNTY MEETING OR A COUNTY MEETING AND SAY WE'D LIKE TO MOVE $500,000 FROM INSTRUCTION TO OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OR ROOFING OR BLEACHERS AT THE FOOTBALL FIELD, I MEAN, ANYTHING COULD WE REALISTICALLY GET THAT STARTED IN A POA ISSUED THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO ASK TO ROLL JUNE 30TH, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY TO GET IT COMPLETED BY JUNE 30TH. YES.
IF YOU IF IF IT WAS, LET'S SAY IT THEORETICALLY, IT'S $900,000.
AND THE BOARD'S WILL IS TO DO THE CLEMENTS ROOF PROJECT ON IT. IF YOU TOLD US THAT IN APRIL, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A BID, HAVE ON SITE MEETINGS LIKE THAT'S A PROCESS.
IF IT'S MID TO LATE MAY AND YOU CAME TO US AND SAID WE HAVE $900,000 FOR A ROOF, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER OFF TO LET THE COUNTY KEEP IT IN THEIR CONTINGENCY OR THEIR CAPITAL FUND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TO FOOL WITH ROLLING IT OVER.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MISS CHRIS, TO AVOID DOING THIS PROCESS.
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MARCH MARCH THE 3RD, 2026 WITH $2 MILLION. YES.THAT'S NOT THE FULL 2 MILLION, BUT IT'S CLOSER TO WHAT MR. ELY WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO WE DO LEAVE SOME RESERVE FUNDS IN THERE AND WE GO WITH IT.
IF IT'S MID APRIL WHEN YOU TELL US THAT. AND IT'S $900,000, WE PROBABLY COULD PULL OFF GETTING THE ROOFING PROJECT BID AWARDED AND A PO ISSUED, WHICH WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO ASK TO ROLL OVER BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FINISHED BY JUNE 30TH.
IF IT'S LESS MONEY THAN THAT OR LESS TIME, WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS IN CIP.
LIKE THE WE MENTIONED MISS ANDREWS MENTIONED MORE EARLIER.
IF YOU GO INTO MORE AND LOOK UP AND THOSE 30 FOOT HIGH CEILINGS, THE PAINT IS PEELING TERRIBLY.
IT'S WHAT THE PAINTING CONTRACTOR THAT RON'S TEAM AND RON AND HIS TEAM HAD LOOKED AT, IT HAS SAID, IS THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T USE THE RIGHT PRIMER WHEN THEY PAINTED IT 25 YEARS AGO. PLUS ALL THE HEAT GOES UP THERE. PLUS THEY ALSO DID THE BLEACHERS REALLY NICELY IN THE GYM.
ARE THERE PROJECTS THAT WE COULD SPEND MONEY ON BY JUNE 30TH? YES. BUT WE'RE NOT WAITING ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE END, TILL THE LAST MINUTE, WHEN WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO BUT TO GIVE OUT A BONUS BECAUSE YOU'RE AT, YOU KNOW, THE 11TH HOUR OF WHEN THE BANK CLOSES AND YOU ROLL INTO A NEW YEAR.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF IF THE FINANCE TEAM IS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A NUMBER THAT DOCTOR LYELL AND DOCTOR MARTIN ARE HAPPY WITH PRESENTING TO YOU ALL OF MONEY THAT WE COULD GO ASK THE COUNTY FOR TO RE-APPROPRIATE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
BECAUSE WE'RE ON CATEGORICAL SPENDING, WE COULD FIND PROJECTS TO FULFILL ROOFS.
IT WOULD NEED TO BE SOONER THAN LATER FOR IT TO BE A ROOF.
IF WE DIDN'T GET APPROVAL OF THAT UNTIL, LIKE THE MAY COUNTY MEETING, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PULL OFF AN RFP SITE VISITS, PRE-BID MEETINGS, ALL OF THAT IN SIX WEEKS AND GET A PO PUT OUT.
REALLY, AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR, IT YEAR, IT WOULD COME DOWN TO TIMING, WOULD WE? WOULD WE FAST TRACK IT THE BEST WE COULD TO DO A ROOFING PROJECT? ABSOLUTELY. IF IF FINANCE WAS COMFORTABLE SAYING WE COULD GO OVER AND ASK THE COUNTY FOR AN I DON'T HE MIGHT SAY 400,000.
I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. BUT IF HE SAID $900,000 FOR A ROOFING PROJECT, I BELIEVE ON OUR CIP PLAN, THAT'S THE LEAST EXPENSIVE ONE. AFTER, AFTER AND AFTER THE YES, THE CLEMENTS ONE IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE.
SO IF WE COULD GET THERE, THE SOONER WE FIND OUT, THE BETTER.
EXCUSE ME? HOW CAN YOU BE ON TRACK FOR SOMETHING IF.
NO, I MEAN, WE'RE AT AGAIN. WE'RE HERE. WE GOT ROOF PROBLEMS. THE ROOF PLAN. EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING THE ROOF PLAN THAT WE ARE AGREEING THAT WE ARE ON TRACK FOR.
IS THE PRESENTATION OR THE PACKAGE THAT APRIL, OUR CONSULTANT PUT TOGETHER ON OUR NEXT STEPS.
THESE ARE NOT ACTIVE. EVERYDAY IT RAINS THAT WE HAVE SOUP KETTLES FROM THE KITCHEN CATCH AND DROPS.
WE WE PATCH IT WITH THE ANNUAL BUDGET AND THE REPAIRS THAT WE CAN.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ROOFING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GETTING MULTIPLE PHONE CALLS ABOUT FROM PARENTS, TEACHERS, STUDENTS. I DON'T THINK YOU ALL ARE GETTING THEM OUTSIDE OF POSSIBLY BEASLEY, WHICH WE'RE WELL AWARE OF.
THIS IS A PLAN BASED ON LIFE EXPECTANCY AND THEY'RE OUT OF WARRANTY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO REPLACE YOUR ROOF BEFORE IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO. ALSO, I JUST MENTIONED TO DOCTOR LYLE SINCE ONE THING THAT THE KINDERGARTEN TEACHERS REALLY WANT AND WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY.
TRY TO HIRE SOME PARENTS. YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THAT BECOMES PART OF YOUR REOCCURRING.
THAT'S WHY OUR BUDGET IS LIKE 90 SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS.
SO YOU CAN'T CREATE A POSITION YOU CAN DO LIKE PROJECTS.
SO AGAIN, I GUESS I JUST TO BE BLUNT, I HAVE A HARD TIME.
WE SAT HERE MULTIPLE MEETINGS. WE CAME UP WITH THIS.
WE GO NEXT DOOR, THEY GET CALLS, ROOFS. I MEAN, IT'S THE WORLD IS FALLING DOWN.
AND DON'T WE LOOK LIKE FOOLS? NO, NO. NOW WE GOT ROOF PROBLEMS.
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SO, I MEAN, IF THE NEED IS THERE, YOU GOT TO FUND IT, BUT.I GUESS IN A YEAR, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK HERE DOING IT AGAIN, MR. SORENSEN. THANK YOU, MR. ELY. YES, SIR. I WOULD SAY, MR. CHRIS, YOU ARE RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL REPORT, WE'RE TRENDING VERY SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR.
BASED ON THE JANUARY DATA, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL HAVE ABOUT A $2 MILLION BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE CHIMED IN ON SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO SAY.
BUT ONE THING ALSO IN ADDITION IS THAT THE STATE HAS A HAS AN AMENDMENT OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE DETAIL ON YET THAT COULD IMPACT 25 BY ABOUT 3 OR $400,000 IF THE BONUS THAT THEY APPROVED DOES, IN FACT COME THROUGH IN 25, THEY WILL NOT GIVE US THE FULL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THAT BONUS.
SO IT'S GOING TO EAT INTO OUR THAT PROJECTED $2 MILLION BY ABOUT 3 OR $400,000 A LOCAL.
THERE HAS TO BE A LOCAL MATCH, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THE LAST YEAR'S BONUS.
WE DON'T WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THOSE DETAILS.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR IS NO, THE STATE HAS GIVEN US THIS MONEY FOR A NEW BONUS.
BUT AS FAR AS THE $2 MILLION IS, I THINK BOTH MR. JOHNSON, MR. ELY SAID CATEGORICAL FUNDING ADDS AN OBSTACLE TO SPENDING THAT MONEY QUICKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE EXACTLY RIGHT WHEN WE MOVE THAT MONEY. I MEAN, IT'S APPROPRIATED LEGALLY BY CATEGORY.
SO IF WE ESTIMATE AND THEN GAS GOES UP OR ELECTRICITY BILLS ARE UP, OR ANY ONE OF A NUMBER OF THINGS HAPPEN IN AN $80 MILLION BUDGET, AND WE'RE SHORT ONE CATEGORY, WE'VE EXCEEDED THE APPROPRIATION.
WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO PROJECTING OUT MONTHS IN ADVANCE OF EVERY LITTLE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO GET TO THE DOLLAR, TO MOVE MONEY DOWN TO BETWEEN CATEGORIES IS A LITTLE TRICKY.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY IS WE DON'T KNOW WHERE REVENUE IS GOING TO BE.
NOW WE CAN WE CAN GET CLOSE, BUT IT JUST CAN'T BE EXACT.
BUT IT'S SAFE TO SAY THERE'S $5 MILLION MORE IN THE 25 BUDGET THAN THERE WAS IN 24.
THAT IS TRUE. IF WE ARE TRENDING RIGHT ALONG IN LINE, YOU CAN SAY TO I MEAN, IN ESSENCE, YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AROUND 4 TO 5 MILLION IF YOU'RE TRENDING, BECAUSE THAT HAS 5 MILLION MORE BUILT INTO IT.
BUT IT'S A RELATIVE TREND. IT'S A RELATIVE TREND TO BUDGET ACTUALS, TO BUDGET LAST YEAR, ACTUALS TO BUDGET THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT'S TRUE THE BUDGET WENT BY $5 MILLION, BUT WE GAVE PAY RAISES, HEALTH INSURANCE WENT UP.
A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS OCCURRED AS WELL. SO TO TO CONSUME THAT $5 MILLION.
SO AGAIN IT'S A RELATIVE COMPARISON. ACTUALS TO BUDGET.
ACTUALS TO BUDGET BECAUSE OUR ACTUALS ARE UP FROM LAST YEAR TOO.
SO SO WE SO THE POINT IS YOU'RE RIGHT WE'RE TRENDING THE SAME.
SO ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL THE SURPLUS IS GOING TO BE THE SAME.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE I MEAN WE'RE CONSUMING THE $5 MILLION.
THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY THE BUDGET WENT UP. WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS FOR THAT.
SO WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT COME 8TH MARCH AND SEE THE OTHER, THE OTHER? IT'S NOT A PROBLEM, BUT IS IF YOU IF WE TAKE $500,000 AND SAY WE WANT TO RE-APPROPRIATE THIS MONEY, AND I HATE TO CALL ON HER BECAUSE SHE'S SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE CALLED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THEIR BUDGET? IF WE REALLOCATE $500,000, OR WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO MOVE IT AND JUST MOVE ON? NO. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ONLY IF THE BUDGET INCREASES BY.
THE LAW IS THAT IF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AMENDS THE BUDGET, AND THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS MORE THAN 1% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET, OKAY, THEN THAT TRIGGERS THE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO $500,000 WOULD PROBABLY NOT TRIGGER THAT. PROBABLY NOT.
I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MISS MR..
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THE $500,000 IS NOT INCREASING THE BUDGET. IT'S JUST MOVING FROM ONE CATEGORY TO ANOTHER.OKAY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE BUDGET IS STILL GOING TO BE WHAT IT WAS BEFORE WE MOVED THE MONEY. OKAY, SO WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT IN MARCH YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHERE THAT ROOF FOR BEASLEY. THREE SOMETHING.
YEAH. 374. RIGHT. IT. WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT IN MARCH WE WE COULD WE WOULD KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT? IT WOULD BE IT WOULD FOR 374.
YES. THAT'S A VERY REASONABLE EXPECTATION. EXCUSE ME.
IF YOUR GOAL IS TO TACKLE THE BEASLEY PROJECT OUT OF THAT MONEY, THE NUMBER WOULD ONLY BE 266 SEVEN.
RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S ONE SOMETHING ALREADY THERE. THE OTHER 107.
ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE DID THAT, THEN YOU COULD PUT THE VAN BACK, RIGHT? YES. PUT EVERYTHING. WHATEVER YOU TOOK OUT OF THERE, YOU CAN PUT BACK.
AND THEN WE JUST TAKE THE 276 IN MARCH AND DO THE ROOFING PROJECT, FINISH THE ROOFING PROJECT AT BEASLEY, SO TO SAY. YES. AND AND WE COULD ADD IN. I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK TOMORROW.
BUT IF, IF, IF WE'RE FREEING UP 266 731 ON THIS ON THIS LIST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IT AND WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNTY UNTIL APRIL 8TH. THEN WE COULD ADD WE COULD PROBABLY ADD IN LIKE THE PAINTING PROJECT AND MORE.
MRS WE HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL THAT HAS BEEN ASKING FOR A PARKING LOT TO BE REDONE.
IF WE KNOW THAT IN MARCH AND DO THE ROOF PROJECT.
WELL, WE'D HAVE TO BE THE APRIL. IT'D BE THE APRIL MEETING, I GUESS.
RIGHT? WHICH IS THE SEVENTH? NO, 14TH. 14. NO.
14. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THIS LIST BACK TO THE COUNTY ON THE EIGHTH. RIGHT.
YES, MA'AM. OKAY. BECAUSE WE WENT OVER THERE, WE DIDN'T HAVE NO ROOF PROBLEMS, MA'AM.
ROOF CAME WHEN WE WENT OVER THERE. WE KNOW NOW WE HAVE A ROOFING PROBLEM.
LET'S FIX IT. WE KNOW WE HAVE MONEY RIGHT NOW IN OUR BUDGET.
GO BACK. WE'LL GO BACK OVER AND SAY, HEY, THANKS.
OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. ANY COMMENTS? CONCERNS. QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO. Y'ALL, I CAN'T. Y'ALL Y'ALL GOT TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
MISS TAYLOR. ARE WE PRESENTING THIS BACK OVER TO THE BOARD? SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO SEND THE ORIGINAL BACK OVER WITH WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY? TAKE THE 276. WE KNOW WE HAVE TO FINISH THE PROJECT AT BEASLEY.
IF MR. SORENSEN TELLS US 276, HE FEELS SAFE THAT WE CAN DO WE DO THAT OUT OF THE REGULAR BUDGET AND THEN WE'RE WE WE GO BACK WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WE SENT OVER THERE AND THEY LOOKED AT TWO WEEKS AGO, OR DO YOU WANT TO SEND THIS OVER THERE AND THEN LOOK AT OTHER PROJECTS OUT OF THE BUDGET, AND YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE 276? YOU WON'T KNOW UNTIL APRIL AFTER YOU CLOSE MARCH.
WE WE WOULD LIKE TO. SO THE FEBRUARY CLOSED TODAY. SO IF WE COULD LOOK AT FEBRUARY AND LET US COME BACK WHEN WE DO OUR FINANCIALS IN TWO WEEKS AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
DOES THAT WORK? AND I CAN PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR BOTH BOTH WAYS.
AND IF HE SAYS, YES, WE GO WITH THIS. IF HE SAYS YES, WE CAN ASK THE COUNTY TO MOVE MONEY HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THE 266 731 WE WOULD GO THIS ROUTE IF HE'S NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE 266, 731 FOR SOME REASON WE WOULD GO THIS ROUTE.
WE HAVE TWO HARD AND FAST ROUTES. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH. ONE OF THEM INCLUDES THE ROUTE. THEY BOTH INCLUDE THE ROOFING PROJECT, BUT THEY DON'T WANT. IT'S JUST DIFFERENT MONEY, CHECKBOOKS.
IT MIGHT GET MORE. MIGHT GET MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
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I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU HAD TO GO BACK SOONER.TO THEM. APRIL THE 8TH. OH, APRIL. OKAY. I WAS THINKING IT WAS.
BUT THEN THERE'S SOMETHING ON MARCH THE 11TH THAT IS NOT RELATED TO THIS.
OKAY. BUT THEY KNOW WE'RE COMING BACK WITH THIS ON APRIL 8TH.
CORRECT. OKAY. ALL I COULD THINK OF WHEN HE ASKED ME THAT QUESTION WAS THAT OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING WAS MARCH 17TH, AND THEIR NEXT AVAILABILITY AFTER THAT WAS APRIL 8TH. OKAY.
SO WE HAVE UNTIL APRIL 8TH TO GET THIS BACK IN FRONT OF THEM.
YEAH. I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH IT. MISS ANDREWS, THAT'S FINE.
MISS TAYLOR, ARE YOU GOOD? MISS CHRIS? YEAH, I THINK, MR. JOHNSON. MR. ELY. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH TWO RECOMMENDATIONS. YES, SIR. AND LOOK AT IT ON THE 17TH.
YEAH. AND MR. AND MR. SORENSON WILL HAVE AN IDEA FOR US ON THE 17TH.
IF HE FEELS COMFORTABLE THAT THE 266 CAN COME OUT OF OUR REGULAR BUDGET, AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD RECOMMEND OFF OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING OFF TONIGHT.
I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. BARNES. I MEAN, I THINK THE ONE THING WE WANT TO GET IS THE VAN.
IT'S ABOUT $40,000. IF YOU GOT THE VAN AND YOU LEFT THE ROOFING OF BEASLEY ON THERE, WHICH ONE OF THOSE PROJECT COULD YOU GO THROUGH FOR 40,000? I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 40,000 IN OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
CAN'T WE GO AHEAD AND SPEND IT ON THE, ON THE THE VAN NOW OR DO WE NOT HAVE IT IN THE RIGHT CATEGORY? WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE RIGHT CATEGORY. WE WE WE START THE YEAR WITH $50,000 IN THE RIGHT CATEGORY.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THE COUNTY CARES ABOUT.
ARE THOSE MAIN ONES INTERNALLY WITHIN TRANSPORTATION, IN ALL OPERATIONS.
I THINK THAT'S JUST ONE CATEGORY. WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
MR. SORENSON'S ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE ARE THE TRANSPORTATION LINE, AND THE OPERATIONS LINE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE HURTING THE WORST FINANCIALLY JUST IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET. SO WE DON'T REALLY WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY MONEY IN THOSE LINES TO TRANSFER TODAY TO DO RIGHT NOW, BUT IN THOSE LINES, I KNOW WE HAVE MORE THAN 50,000 OR WE HAVE, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
GOT IT. IF SOMETHING ELSE NEEDED TO COME OFF THIS, IF IF THE BOARD'S WILL WAS TO FUND THE THE VAN OVER SOMETHING ELSE ON THIS LIST. AND MR. BRUBAKER AND MISS CHRISTOPHER.
OKAY. YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE IT IN THE IT BUDGET THEN.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL COME BACK. MR. SORENSEN MARCH 17TH.
IF YOU'LL GIVE US AN IDEA OF. YES, WE CAN DO THIS.
WE. YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE? NOT ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL. YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE.
YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN. I LIKE ALL THESE PEOPLE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO JAIL.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
MR. BARNES, DOCTOR? LYLE, ARE YOU OKAY? SO JUST TO CLARIFY.
SO WHEN WILL YOU ACTUALLY KNOW AN ESTIMATE? I THINK WE MET IN MAY LAST TIME AND KIND OF HAD WE MEAN AROUND ABOUT NUMBER OF EXCESS FUNDS. SO IS THAT WHEN YOU.
SO IT'S A LITTLE HARD FOR ME TO TO ANSWER. YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE CAN PROJECT OUT.
I MEAN, THERE ARE NUMBERS. THIS MATH WE CAN PROJECT OUT.
AND SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY ANGST. THE REST OF IT'S MATH.
THOSE. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M GIVING. THAT'S WHY I'M GIVING A LITTLE PUSHBACK.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE HERE TO TELL YOU.
WELL, EVERY YEAR WE USUALLY NEED THIS MONEY FOR THAT IN MAY.
I DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE HERE. SO SO THAT'S MY ANGST IS IS THE UNKNOWN.
YOU KNOW, $1 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT $1 MILLION OUT OF 86 MILLION IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY.
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SO SURE TO COME BACK AND SAY WE HAVE $2 MILLION.I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT TELLING YOU THAT TONIGHT. BUT AGAIN, 2 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT OUT OF 84 MILLION TO RUN A SCHOOL DIVISION NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, WHEN THINGS WE DON'T KNOW MIGHT HAPPEN, IT'S TIGHT. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT IT'S IN CATEGORIES.
AGAIN. WE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T BE OFF IN ANY ONE OF THE CATEGORIES.
SO TO MOVE MONEY AROUND IN SOMETHING YOU CAN AGAIN, I THINK IT'S JUST GOING NEXT DOOR AND ASKING.
I THINK THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS NO ONE WANTS TO GO NEXT DOOR.
IF THEY DID, WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. BUT I DON'T KNOW.
YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU MAY NOT KNOW. YOU'RE OFF UNTIL JUNE 30TH AND THEN YOU CAN'T GO NEXT DOOR.
THAT'S SOME OF THE THAT'S SOME OF THE ISSUE. SO I AM TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.
I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU NUMBERS, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU.
WELL, EVERY YEAR IN THE SPRING THIS HAPPENS. I DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.
AND WE HAD TO LIKE CLOSE THE SCHOOL AND PUT PEOPLE OTHER PLACES BECAUSE THE PART HAD TO BE ORDERED FROM OVERSEAS OR SOMETHING? CORRECT. SO IT WAS AN OLDER PART. YEAH, IT WAS A REAL OLD PART.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, ONCE WE GET PAST JUNE 30TH, IS WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE CARRYOVER MONEY, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW WE HAVE THIS MONEY UNTIL THIS COUNTY IS AUDITED.
THAT IS CORRECT. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.
I THINK YOU'RE MISSING MY POINT, BUT IT'S OKAY. WELL, MR. SAUNDERS IS GOING TO COME BACK AND TELL US, AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. OKAY, I GET YOUR POINT, RIGHT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BARNES. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT ON THE DISCUSSION IS THE 2526
[2. Discussion on 2025-26 Budget]
BUDGET. DOCTOR. LYLE. YES, SIR. SO THE TEAM WE HAVE MET AND LOOKED AT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT THAT WE POSSIBLY WILL NEED TO TO GET TO, TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET.
MR. SORENSEN CREATED A SPREADSHEET TO HELP US CALCULATE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
OBVIOUSLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TWO BIGGEST WAYS TO GET TO WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WE MIGHT BE RECEIVING WOULD BE TO REDUCE THE 5% REQUESTED INCREASE FOR SALARIES TO DOWN TO 3%, COUPLED WITH REDUCING ALL OF THE NEW POSITIONS. NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO.
SO. MR. SORENSEN, ARE WE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE THAT WORKING SPREADSHEET YOU PUT TOGETHER? YES, SIR. WE ARE. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF GUIDE US THE BOARD THROUGH WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE TO KIND OF HELP US MAKE SENSE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WE MIGHT BE FACED WITH? SURE. SO WE WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
SO AS WE'RE DOING THIS LIVE, IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY WITH CHANGING NUMBERS, BUT JUST A SPREADSHEET THAT WE CAN GO AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE CHANGE DIFFERENT VARIABLES. SO THE THE TOP OF THIS WORKSHEET IS BEFORE YOU.
THIS IS THIS IS THE REVENUE AGAIN THE TOP LINE.
THIS IS ON THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET. AGAIN IT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS OUT THERE OR THE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY'S BUDGET OUT THERE. BUT THIS IS STILL THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET. AND SO THE NUMBERS, THE FY 25 ADOPTED BUDGET.
THE $84.9 MILLION IN THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED BUDGET IS NEXT TO THAT 90 MILLION, $97,000.
AND THEN IT'S A COLUMN CALLED BOARD AMENDMENTS.
BELOW THAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ADDED TO THE BUDGET.
SO WHEN WE TALKED TO YOU BEFORE, WE MOVED SEVERAL THINGS AROUND BASED ON SPENDING TRENDS AND VACANT POSITIONS, BUT THAT DIDN'T IMPACT THE BUDGET. THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE BUDGET.
THE ITEMS FROM LINE 18 TO 49 ON THIS SPREADSHEET.
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BUDGET LOWER. IF THAT WAS YOUR DESIRE TO TAKE IT LOWER.SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, LET'S JUST SAY WE DIDN'T WANT ONE OF THESE SECONDARY COACHES. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN SAY, CHRIS, TAKE THAT OUT.
WE TAKE IT OUT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE REMOVED 100,000 EXPENSES.
SO WE'RE NOW 100,000 TO THE GOOD. SO IT'S KIND OF A MOVING MATH EXERCISE AS YOU SAY.
WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS. WHAT ABOUT THAT. WE CAN SEE WHAT THAT DOES TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.
SO DID THAT HELP? IS THAT SO? MR. SORENSEN, JUST FOR THE JUST FOR UNDERSTANDING.
CAN YOU SHOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO REDUCE THE 5% INCREASE DOWN TO 3%, WHAT THAT WOULD, WHAT THAT WOULD DO IN TERMS OF REDUCING THE AMOUNT.
SURE. SO, SO THESE THESE TOP FIVE LINES SAY PAY INCREASE.
THAT'S AT THE 5%. SO I HAVE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF MY SPREADSHEET WHAT A 3% COST.
IF WE TAKE THIS MONEY. AGAIN, WE'RE GOING FROM 5% TO 3%.
YOU WOULD HOPE TO SEE A SAVINGS. AND YOU DO SEE THAT THE EXPENSES WENT DOWN TO $88.8 MILLION.
SO WE REDUCED THE BUDGET BY $1.3 MILLION. SO IF THE REVENUE STAYS THE SAME, WE JUST TOOK THE PAY RAISE FROM 5% TO 3%, SAVED OURSELVES 1,000,003. NOW WE CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THE INTENT OF THIS IS AS YOU, AS YOU HAVE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO TO THE BUDGET, WE CAN SEE WHAT THE WHAT THE IMPACT IS.
SO GO AHEAD. SORRY. BOARD MEMBERS.
CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY.
SURE. AND THIS IS THE ESTIMATED THE HEALTH CARE.
THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE THINK ARE. THEY PRETTY MUCH TOLD US.
NO, MA'AM. THEY HAVE TOLD US. IT'S 2.6. OKAY.
SO THAT'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT. OKAY. YES, MA'AM.
OKAY. THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED. OKAY. THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED.
AND WHERE'S THE SCHOOL DIVISION IS STILL SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO EAT THAT COST.
THAT WAS MY HESITATION. IT CAN BE CHANGED. BUT IF WE TAKE THE FULL COST.
NO, IT CAN'T BE CHANGED, RIGHT? THAT IS MY DRIVE.
SO I CAN GIVE IT TO CHRIS. CAN YOU SCROLL IT DOWN SOME MORE? I WISH WE HAD THIS. I DON'T KNOW, MR. JOHNSON.
WHAT IS THE SOURCE? IT SHOULD ALREADY BE HERE.
WHAT IS THAT? SO THAT'S MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE FOR STUDENTS AND STAFF.
THAT $25,000? YEP. YOU SAID YOU WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT BY MOVING MONEY AROUND RIGHT ON THE PAPER.
Y'ALL GAVE ME THE THE THE CARE SOLACE IS IS NEW MONEY.
YOU HAD MONEY. YOU SAID YOU FOUND PART OF THAT ON THE PAPER.
IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WERE ABLE TO BUILD MICHAEL A BUDGET NOW FOR OKAY.
SO THIS WAS ON THE SAME PAPER THAT THE MIKE BUDGET BUDGET WAS FOR MICHAEL.
SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE NOT FUNDING THIS NOW OR.
WE ARE. NO. I THINK WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IS REMEMBER WHEN WE ORIGINALLY THE THE HEALTH INSURANCE, WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS? SO THAT'S WHERE WE SAID WE WOULD INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE THINGS THROUGH THE SAVINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THROUGH THAT REDUCTION, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS GOING TO BE, WHAT, 11 OR 12%? 11%. AND SO ONCE WE ONCE IT CAME DOWN TO LIKE 2.6, SIX.
THAT'S WHERE WE SAID, WELL, THROUGH THAT SAVINGS, WE CAN INCLUDE IT HERE.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WAS OUR CONVERSATION. SO ARE WE FUNDING IT OR.
WE DON'T KNOW YET? WE ARE. WE ARE FUNDING IT.
WE'RE FUNDING IT. OKAY. IT'S JUST LISTED HERE BECAUSE IT'S A NEW IT'S NEW.
IT'S IT HAS NOT BEEN IN THE BUDGET IN THE PAST.
THAT'S WHY IT'S LISTED HERE. YEAH, BUT IT'S OKAY.
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BOARD MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? I DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THE KINDERGARTEN INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANCE.THEY'VE ASKED FOR THEM AND ASKED FOR THEM. AND ALL I'M HEARING IS WE NEED THEM.
CAN WE HIRE THEM? I DON'T KNOW. THAT IS A HIRE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE NEW HEAD COUNT. RIGHT. BUT CAN YOU CAN YOU GET PEOPLE TO FILL THOSE SPOTS? CAN YOU FIND THE PEOPLE YOU MEAN, RIGHT? YES.
MR.. JOHNSON. MR.. OKAY. I CAN'T HEAR I CAN'T HEAR YOU. YEAH. WE DISCONNECTED. HOLD ON, MR. JOHNSON. GIVE US ONE SECOND.
MR. CHAIR, IS THIS A IS THIS A PRIORITY LIST FROM THE ADMINISTRATORS OR WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? DOCTOR LYLE. THE LIST. THERE IS EVERYTHING. ALL OF THE NEW POSITIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED.
THE TEAM AND I DID LOOK TODAY AT IF WE HAD TO PRIORITIZE A LIST.
BUT. IF WE, IF WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVING, I DON'T THINK WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ENGLISH LEARNER TEACHER POSITIONS WHICH WE WILL RECEIVE, THOSE ARE SOQ REQUIRED. AND WE WOULD BE WE ARE RECEIVING ADDITIONAL STATE MONEY FOR THOSE.
THE OTHER, ALL OF THE OTHER POSITIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED.
CORRECT? THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH. I GUESS I'M NOT WITH YOU RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S.
SO WE'RE JUST. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA RIGHT NOW.
CORRECT? ON AN EXACT FIGURE? NO, SIR. WE DON'T.
AS THE COUNTY SAID, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FOR US OR WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT INFORMATION.
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT INFORMATION. OKAY, SO SO TONIGHT WE'RE WE CAN'T REALLY MAKE ANY DECISIONS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS.
CORRECT. AND THE GOVERNOR HASN'T SIGNED OFF EITHER.
CORRECT? NO, SIR. HE HAS NOT. SO WHAT IS WHAT IS THE GOAL? FOR US? WHEN DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE A BUDGET WITHOUT THE STATE OR THE COUNTY TELLING US WHAT OUR BUDGET MAY BE? I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE IT TO THEM BY APRIL THE 1ST.
WE KNOW BY APRIL 1ST WHAT THE REVENUE WILL BE.
MR. STOKE IS PRESENTING HIS BUDGET. IN A WEEK OR TWO, I DO BELIEVE, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE.
WILL GIVE THE NUMBERS TO MR. STOKE TO DO HIS BUDGET FROM.
BECAUSE ALL OF THEIR CATEGORIES WILL BE TURNED IN OF HOW EACH BOARD MEMBER FEELS AND RANK THEM.
THEY ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE TAX RATE. IF THEY ADVERTISE AT 82, THEY CAN STILL COME DOWN.
IF THEY ADVERTISE AT 80, THEY CANNOT GO UP, SO THEY MAY ADVERTISE.
TELL US TOMORROW NIGHT WE'RE GOING TO ADVERTISE AT 82, BUT THEY STILL MAY COME DOWN TO 80.
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SO OR 70 THEY CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO 73 TO EQUALIZE, WHICH IF YOU LOOK IN DOLLAR AND CENTS, THE PENNY THAT HAS GONE UP. SO $1,000 IS NOW 400 AND SOME ODD THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE COST OF A PENNY.SO EVERY TIME THEY DROP THAT TAX RATE, THAT MONEY GOES DOWN.
SO, MR. SORENSON, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHERE WHERE IS THE LEVEL, WHERE IS THE LEVEL OF FUNDING OF WHAT THEY GAVE US LAST YEAR? WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? RIGHT. SO ON, ON THAT SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU, MR. ELY THE 25 ADOPTED BUDGET 17, 849. OKAY. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE LEVEL FUNDING.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 21 219. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR $3.4 MILLION MORE.
ONE WAS TO LEAVE THE PERCENTAGE WHERE IT IS CORRECT, WHICH IS LEVEL.
THE OTHER ONE WAS TAKE THE MOU DOWN TO 36%. CORRECT.
WHICH WOULD TAKE DOWN VERY LITTLE. OR DO IT AT 40% OF NEW MONEY THAT WE COULD GET BACK.
THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. SO MY GUESS, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ANY OF THEM BECAUSE I REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION IS OR WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT AT AS THEY'LL GO TO 40. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO AS WELL.
SURE. IS THAT MY HOPE IS THAT THEY KEEP IT AT LEVEL FUNDING.
IF THEY KEEP US AT LEVEL FUNDING AT $17,849,961, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO SCRAMBLE.
WELL, WITHOUT A DOUBT. YES, SIR. BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT'S $3 MILLION FOR.
YEAH. ALMOST $4 MILLION TO WHAT? THE PROJECTION IS HERE.
RIGHT. WE COULDN'T AFFORD THE 3% PAY RAISE. WE COULDN'T.
WE COULDN'T AFFORD ANY PAY RAISE. CORRECT. WE COULD.
WE'D BE ABOUT 250 SHORT WITH HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH WE SAID WE'D TAKE, AT LEAST FOR NOW.
WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ON. AND A PAY RAISE OF 3%.
WE'D BE ABOUT TWO 60 SHORT OF BALANCING. RIGHT.
AND MY MY OPINION IS, IS IF YOU GIVE THE EMPLOYEE A 3% RAISE, YET YOU TELL THEM THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR INSURANCE, THEN THEY DON'T GET ANYTHING. SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE MAD BECAUSE YOU'VE TAKEN MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKET. AND I GET IT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GIVEN THEM A 3% RAISE, BUT NOW YOU'VE ASKED THEM TO TAKE ON A PERCENTAGE OF THAT, AND IT'S NOT THEN IT'S NOT. TO ME, THAT'S NOT FAIR.
BUT WE GOT TO DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO TO MAKE THE BUDGET WORK.
SO BY TOMORROW NIGHT WE WILL KNOW BASICALLY WHERE THEY'RE AT.
MY MY GUT TELLS ME LEVEL FUNDING. MY GUT TELLS ME THEY'RE GOING TO ADVERTISE AT 82.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING. AND THEN IF THEY DROP IT, IF THEY KEEP US AT LEVEL FUNDING AND DROP IT TO PENNIES, THEN IT'S EVEN MORE MONEY, AM I RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THEY THEY PUT SOME SLIDES UP IN THEIR WORK SESSION.
CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO IF THEY KEPT IT AT 37.23% AND THEY KEPT $0.82, WE WOULD GET 1,000,005 INCREASE. SO IT WOULD GO UP TO 19, THREE, 19, FIVE, 89, 77.
OKAY. SO THAT'S STILL 2 MILLION LESS THAN WHAT THAT IS.
CORRECT. RIGHT. SO WHERE IF LET'S JUST SAY THEY DO THAT AND THEY KEEP IT AT LEVEL FUNDING WITH THE EXTRA MILLION FIVE WHERE WHERE WOULD THE WHERE WOULD THE PERCENTAGE TO THE EMPLOYEES BE AT THAT POINT? WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE RAISE WILL WE BE ABLE TO GIVE AT THAT POINT? STILL NOTHING. I'M SORRY.
I WAS JUST I WAS ANTICIPATING YOUR QUESTION, NOT LISTENING TO IT.
CAN YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO IF IF THEY GIVE US IF THEY STAY AT 82, THEY KEEP IT AT 37, WE GET AN EXTRA MILLION FIVE WHICH GOES TO 19. WHATEVER. THAT NUMBER IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID, RIGHT.
WHAT WOULD IT BE? WHAT WOULD THE WHAT COULD WE DO A RAISE AT THAT POINT? WELL, LET'S YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO A RAISE OFF THE TOP IF WE'RE GETTING $3 MILLION.
TOTAL EVEN AT LEVEL FUNDING, WE'RE STILL GETTING $3.
$3 MILLION MORE. SO WHERE'S THE $3 MILLION GOING? WELL, YOU GOT THE YOU GOT 2 MILLION HOPEFULLY 2 MILLION FROM THE STATE AND THEN A MILLION AND A HALF FROM THE COUNTY.
RIGHT. SO SO MISS MISS. MR. ELY, JUST CHANGE THE NUMBERS.
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IF THEY GAVE US 1,000,005 EXTRA NEXT YEAR, WE HAD A 3% PAY RAISE AND KEPT ALL THE POSITIONS.I KNOW THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED ME THROUGH THE WORKSHEET. WE'D BE 552 SHORT.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD SAY BY 8:00 TOMORROW NIGHT WE WOULD HAVE A GOOD IDEA MAYBE 8:00, MAYBE 730.
IT MIGHT BE BEFORE THEN WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHERE WE STAND.
BUT I'M HOPING, HOPING FOR LEVEL FUNDING AND THE TAX RATE TO STAY AT 8%.
NOW THAT'S ME THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I HOPE I HOPE WE GET MORE THAN LEVEL FUNDING.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE 120 OUT OF 132 CITIES AND COUNTIES.
AND IF WE GET MORE, THEN WE GET MORE. BUT I AM HOPING FOR THE LEVEL WITH MORE MONEY COMING TO US. I ALSO KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN A THEY'RE IN A SPOT WITH THAT TAX RATE.
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FUND A LOT OF THINGS AS WELL.
AND IF THEY DROP THE TAX RATE THEY CAN'T FUND A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.
SO SAFETY AND STRONG SCHOOLS WE WON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO FUND OUR FUTURE IN THE EDUCATION OF OUR CHILDREN.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. AND WE HAVE WE HAVE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AND DISCUSSED IT FOR THE LAST, YOU AND I. ANYWAY, FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND I TOTALLY AGREE.
AND I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT MORE MONEY THAN LEVEL FUNDING.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS IF IT HAS TO GO, IF THEY MAKE THAT MOVE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY WILL, I'M ASKING FOR AT LEAST IF IT CAN BE MORE. I'LL TAKE ANYTHING THEY'LL GIVE US ABOVE THAT.
BUT ON EACH DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND FOR A CHILD.
MR. SORENSON, IF YOU CORRECT ME. IF I'M WRONG, IT'S $0.23.
CORRECT. COMING FROM THE COUNTY. $0.23 ON THE DOLLAR.
YES, SIR. YEP. THANK YOU. SO $0.77 COMES FROM THE THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
ANY GRANTS WE HAVE. BUT THE MAJORITY IS THAT IS THE STATE.
WHAT IS IT? $5 MILLION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IMPACT AID? YES, SIR. WHICH IS WHAT, SIX, 6 OR $0.07 ON A DOLLAR? IS IT THAT MUCH? I MIGHT BE WRONG. I'M NOT SURE I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
NOW THINK ABOUT THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO, BOARD MEMBERS, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR ANYTHING ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR TONIGHT? I GUESS WHAT WE'LL DO IS WAIT FOR THEM TO WAIT FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO GO OVER THEIRS.
TOMORROW EVENING, MR. STOKER WILL PRESENT US AT THEIR NEXT MEETING.
AND THEN THAT WILL GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO MEET.
WELL, I THINK THAT NEED TO MEET AGAIN. YEAH. I THINK ONCE WE SEE WHAT THEIR NUMBER IS TOMORROW OR CLOSE TO IT THEN WE'LL HAVE TO TRY TO FIND A DAY TO MEET TO SEE IF WE NEED WHAT. WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH OUR BUDGET.
MR.. DOCTOR LYLE, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I'LL HAVE MISS KIRK REACH OUT TO YOU ALL TO DETERMINE AVAILABILITY, TO GET SOME DATES, AND WE CAN TRY TO SCHEDULE IT.
ANOTHER ANOTHER WORK SESSION BASED ON AVAILABILITY.
MR.. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN SEND THIS SPREADSHEET RIGHT HERE TO US? OH, SURE. THAT WAY WE'LL ALL HAVE IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET, WE'LL MOVE ON.
[1. Approval of Lease with Southside Virginia Education Center - Dr. Lyle]
EDUCATION CENTER. THANK YOU, MR. ELY. SO THE SOUTHSIDE PROGRAMS FOR ADULT CONTINUING EDUCATION.[01:40:08]
THEY HAVE A CLASSROOM IN GREENSVILLE COUNTY, AND THEY SENT US A LEASE.AND BECAUSE WE ARE THE FISCAL AGENT PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS LISTED ON THE LEASE.
AND SO THE ITEM THAT'S BUDGETED IS $2,250, WHICH IS ALREADY IN THEIR BUDGET, AND THEY'RE JUST ASKING US FOR US TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT ON, ON THEIR BEHALF. AND I'M JUST TONIGHT I'M REQUESTING PERMISSION TO EXECUTE THIS AGREEMENT.
IT'S IN THE GREENSVILLE COUNTY BUDGET. NO, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE ADULT ED BUDGET.
NO, IT'S IN THEIR BUDGET. OKAY. IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED FOR THEM.
THEY'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT SINCE WE'RE THE FISCAL AGENT.
I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE IT. THE AGREEMENT.
SECOND. SECOND MOTION BY MISS ANDREWS. SECOND BY MISS TAYLOR.
ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. JOHNSON. YES. MISS TAYLOR? YES. MRS.. CHRIS. YES. MRS. ANDREWS. YES. MR. HEALY. YES. IF THERE'S NO OTHER ITEMS TO BRING BEFORE THIS BOARD THIS EVENING, I'LL ASK FOR ADJOURNMENT.
I MAKE A MOTION. WE ADJOURN. SECOND. MOTION BY MISS ANDREWS.
SECOND BY MISS CHRIS. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MISS TAYLOR.
YES. MRS.. CHRIS. YES. MR. JOHNSON. YES. MRS. ANDREWS? YES. MR. HEALY. YES. MR..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.